My Issue With That Penis

May 22, 2012 by MaBlerh

Those of us that have had to live with relatives or visit relatives over the holidays are aware of the fact that each household has its own set of governing rules. Despite whom you are, when you visit or join the family as a member, those rules automatically apply to you. If the kids need to be indoors at 6pm, you are also obliged to be indoors at 6pm. There are no special set of rules that apply to you as an adopted member of the family.

White people invaded our home centuries ago and when we finally gained our home back, instead of kicking them out to the back rooms, we realised that we can all share this beautiful home as it is big enough for all of us. Unlike countries like Zimbabwe, we did not turn our White citizens into second class citizens despite the fact that when they were in power, their dogs were regarded as better than Black people. This is not a blanket statement as I do acknowledge the White people that were against Apartheid. Our late heroes like Joe Slovo, Helen Suzman, Helen Joseph and Ruth First who, instead of reaping the benefits of being White, stood up for us.

As Black people, we are taught from a young age, to respect our elders. This is not conditional upon their behaviour. A man could be a drunk that is always carried home on weekends but in the neighbourhood they remained uBab’ Sibani Bani. As a child you were not allowed to mock them for being a drunk and if your parents caught you or heard that you were being disrespectful towards that person, you received the hiding of your life. Even if your own mother or father was a drunken whore, if they were passed out on the side of the road, your duty was to go and pick them up and bring them in the house. In picking them up, you wouldn’t shout at them or ridicule them, if you needed to shout, it would be done privately away from people’s eyes.

It seriously scares me that due to education and western influence, we are losing our values as African people. We have even gone as far as to think that our heritage is inferior. It is sad that the people reading this article know who the heir to the throne of England is and yet have no idea who is the next King of the Zulu’s or the Bafokeng’s.

We question why King Zwelithini gets a government subsidy when Queen Elizabeth gets her stipend from the British government with the support of the nation.

We vilify our president and our Zulu king for polygamy despite that this is Africa and it allowed. No woman is forced or tricked into marrying a polygamist.

Linking back to my introduction, it pisses me off when I speak to a White South African and he/she speaks of polygamy as if it is a shameful crime against humanity. Then we have Black people that join the band wagon which just baffles me. If you don’t like polygamists then don’t marry one, simple.

That “artwork” of President Jacob Zuma with his penis hanging out was not just disrespectful but it violates our core set of values as South Africans. Yes, I am aware that public figures are fair game but there is a line. We can criticise and question the president. Heck, we can even make jokes about him, it is fine but when we violate his basic right to dignity somebody needs to stand up and say something.

When Bill Clinton was president of the USA, he was in a sex scandal, yes, Americans joked and criticised him but no American artist decided to express himself by drawing Bill Clinton with his penis hanging out. Prince Charles was secretly dating Camilla whilst married to the late Princess Diana and he was not violated like our president in the name of artistic expression. No Black artist would have “expressed” themselves in this manner because we know it’s not right. I’ll take it further; no White artist would have done this in Zimbabwe, Botswana, Angola, Namibia or Kenya. It happens here because we are becoming so foolishly westernised that we have forgotten who we are.

I seriously expected someone to say something on the social network or through an article but the general consensus was to laugh and make the picture viral. It is not the first time something like this is happening to Jacob Zuma, before he was president pictures of his ex wife’s corpse were floating on emails and nobody spoke out about that.

I was so impressed when Zuma’s children actually stood up for their father and echoed my sentiments. We cannot let garbage like this slide, Mr Murray’s artwork is disrespectful and in bad taste. I just wonder what is next.

By Mablerh

The author is very correct. The fact that respect MUST be accorded, does not mean it is deserved. Even in the context of being raised to be respectful to the drunkard of a neighbour, there has always been the concept of ‘uBaba noMama ohloniphekile’. So the responsibility for respect cuts both ways.

If we are to use the African value system as a reason for being disgusted by this painting, would we be equally disgusted if it were not the President of the Republic’s genitals being illustrated?

What if it was Kenny Kunene or Theunis Crouse or even Jackson Mthembu? All are fathers and heads of families. I doubt if we would be talking racism or even court cases. They are not the president of the country.

For me, the reaction to that painting has nothing to do with Jacob Zuma’s private parts. If our presidents are the best of what we, as society, collectively want to be or think we are, then those genitals belong to us as a collective society. We are the ones being shamed. That is what we need to deal with and stop this thing of being hung on individual characters.

As society we really need to introspect on the choices that we make that leave us exposed to such interpretation. For me it is really simple. Had we as society not chosen an individual who sleeps with daughters of close friends as a mirror for our values and ambitions and president for our collective, would the painting have had room to exist? Would we be talking about this? Or would we, instead, be talking in equal disgust about the school kids in Limpopo who still do not have books half way into the school year?

89Guy on Tue, 22nd May 2012 4:03 am

Thank you Ntombiziyabusa. Our President as the word says should represent what is best in our society. I and a lot of other people do not believe that he does. Hence we all have at one point in time giggled at our stupid president. Not once have I ever heard someone call Zuma a rolemodel. He is forever being bailed out, getting married, in one scandal or another etc. Can he just once run the country and do it well? Our president needs to wear his actions on his sleeve. My opinion is that he has not been decisive nor has he done enough to earn the respect he so demands. Art is what it is. It gets people thinking. A liberal country is South Africa, and now is definitely not the time to start taking steps backward. My message to our President is Ship Up or Ship Out.

coolcaz on Tue, 22nd May 2012 5:15 am

Ho thata bannaaaaAaaa

Peyo on Tue, 22nd May 2012 6:18 am

African values my foot. We form our own opinion based on wat we see en dats disrespect? I dnt respect da man en wat he stands 4, go fella mo’o. En i’m 1 of many who posted, twipicd, tagged da pic on social networks. En i find it funny as hell especial ya zapiro. Sugar mkhulu hasn’t earnd jach isht 4rm me en he ain’t gettin zip. His actions r da cause of all these “artworks”… \_

lolington kwaaa on Tue, 22nd May 2012 6:45 am

Can he just sit down already…I did not vote for ANC because I did not support Zuma for reasons which seem obvious enough to me. With that being sad, that painting is very disrespectful but the truth is at the end of the day, our President is a true definition of ‘disappointment’.

Babyluv on Tue, 22nd May 2012 7:03 am

JZ is the poster boy for philandering womanizers (sp) *my opinion*. As the 1st citizen he is expected to act as such, we undastand that hes human too bt the way aziphethe ngayo. For me polygamy means marrying mre than 1 wife bt the problem i then hve is tht JZ has gfs too. Here in SA we have a major problem with the rise in Houses being bought In Vereeniging and wen the pres sleeping around it jst adds to the problem. Sum ppl say this painting brings shame to us SAns we’ve already been shamed by electing a president thats not up to standard.

skoko86@gmail.com on Tue, 22nd May 2012 7:24 am

Greetings Mr Pres

i hope ths piece of sheet finds u in good spirit & may u read t without stuttering…

You have been in th news lately 4 a Painting showing ‘your’ Genitals.

1. U engaged in an intercourse with an HIV+ woman, without protection. No Prevention, only Postvention (shower).

2. You have 5wives, more coming maybe (the Swazi woman u paid Lobola for in 2010).

3. You have 21 Children.

4. Extra-marital affairs (Irvin Khoza’s daughter). The latest wife must have been umakhwapheni b4 too.

5. In Daywalker2, Trevor Noah joked about you showing ‘umshini wam’ to the MPs.

6. If someone draws a penis in the same page as your body, how do you start claiming the Penis 2 b yours?

7. ANC, Gwede… need to teach us the meaning of RACISM as they know it because PENIS doesnt know colour (ask Booth)

8. If someone has never seen ur dingdong, how can you say they drew it?

9. Are you complaining because they drew a wrong size, as some people say? As a man, i can assume dat u complaining because its a small-size in the drawing (a bigger size would boost ur Ego ofcourse)

10. Its jus a Painting, dance man & show us the Real Mshini Wam then we will have something to talk about.

dejane on Tue, 22nd May 2012 7:46 am

This is a comment from Brett Murray—-> His work was “an attempt at humorous satire of political power and patriarchy within the context of other artworks in the exhibition and within the broader context of South African discourse”.

Art is a form of expression and its purpose is to evoke emotions and this is what Brett did. He may have ruffled a few feathers but we cannot dispute the message behind the artwork. The President and the ANC are stuffing up. The outrage towards this artwork should be directed at the many social problems this country of ours is facing.

@JohneighGALAXY™ on Tue, 22nd May 2012 8:14 am

The biggest problem with the current calibre of Black or African political leadership is their dislike and disapproval of any form of dissent. If a Black or African person questions the power structures and call for accountability He or She is seen as a traitor and called all sort of names. If it’s a Caucasian person doing the questioning, the reaction is far worse and racist cards get thrown left right and centre. Fact is many people both African and Caucasian aren’t satisfied with the current weak leadership, the painting is just an expression of that dissatisfaction from some pockets of society. The ANC must just be strong and fix up their flaws because what we now have is a weak, toothless government that doesn’t prioritise issues of mass importance like the failing education and health systems. Maybe next time we will have a portrait of a powerful president with an erect golden stick rather than the shrivelled, weak lumpy flesh depicted on the painting.

Kusihlwa on Tue, 22nd May 2012 8:29 am

lol @Skoko….you are funny.

manny on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:02 am

mablehr wangichaza when you remind people that they are visitors …..and baxhashile ….
if they dont follow the rules they have to bounce

LadyMillion on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:10 am

@skoko..hehe *claps once*

promisez on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:16 am

Then they have to go to courts and waste more money on lawyers and all the processes! Angisho our president has the power he has always been longing for, why cant he just order soldiers and combrades to invade that place nd remove that painting. I dont thing ther has to be even a room for negoitations, (waste of time and money)

South Africa will never be at peace for as long as Mr Pres Zuma is still president. I respect u baba Zuma and I dont think anyone deserves to be drawn like that, But, everybody knows, like Tselani put it nicely, he inspired it!

yes its part of African culture to marry more than one wife, But somethings got to be compromised. I think if he did his things PROVATELY , everyone would respect him.

promisez on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:17 am

PRIVATELY that is

Smang-mang Warona on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:36 am

The problem with our president is that he is a small man, with very low self esteem. Anyone with half a brain would have know that the best way to deal with this painting was to ignore it. By making such a big issue out it only exacerbated the issue and now people, who had forgotten, are bringing out his sordid past all over again. If he had been a big person, he would have never entertained this at all and no one would know.

Further, those who speak of African Values and the disrespect of polygamist African culture, must understand that the president pissed (so to speak lol) on culture by impregnating these wives of his first before marrying them. Real Africans know that fathering children out of wedlock is frowned upon and is NOT African or the correct way of carrying out polygamy. Zuma the sex president has disrespected culture and he must not for one second claim that what he did is African culture. This man inspires nothing but contempt from a lot of people and hence no one feels sorry for him. All he’s good for is that Mshini underneath his trousers.

mbulela on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:38 am

I could not care less if JZ had 10 wives or was a widower. I actually care less whether the portrait showed an erect golden stick instead of the shrivelled, weak lumpy flesh it is said to depict.
What i care less about is that the man is inept at the job he is elected to do and there is something deeply worrying and upsetting about our political system that throws up the likes of JZ as president. We must look at addressing that flawed process if we are to make progress as a country. How many women JZ sleeps with is irrelevant to me as long as he is not attempting to sleep with my daughter nor the woman i am with. As long as the ANC see government as a cadre deploying exercise where Robben Island alumnis are deployed as a reward for their struggle credentials irrespective of their ability, we are screwed as a country and that is the crux of the matter.
Penile depictions are mere side shows.

Lady gaga on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:39 am

yho @skoko…he he he

Mrs_Marv on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:41 am

trust you guys to make this about colour!!!! For me this potrait is about Zuma(character) not of him. now they are rumours he got Khozas daughter preggy again. This potrait reminds us who he really is and when it suits him its ok to expose his life to the public. Why havnt ANC said anything about Zapiro’s cartoon? Trvor Noah on Day Walker he talks about his ‘spear” and how many copies have been sold? A painter paints what he sees and if you a have a defferent pespective of Zuma please feel free to paint so we can see it.

in Tselane Tambo’s words: “Do the poor enjoy poverty? Do the unemployed enjoy hopelessness? Do those who can’t get housing enjoy homelessness? He must get over it. No one is having a good time. He should inspire the reverence he craves. This portrait is what he inspired. Shame neh! [sic]“

Mathaz on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:42 am

I was one of those who lashed out at the artist but after I had given it too much thought, i realised that our president does not conduct his life in an appropriate way. His business is all over the place. I am tired of him using culture as an excuse for his behaviour. Yes, it’s african but in this day and age of diseases and him being a PUBLIC person, some things will not work well in his favour.

Bill Clinton had to resign after that scandal but in SA we see politicians looting, having extra marital affairs but still continue in office. Prince Charles’ pupularity wained after Camilla and he is still not preferred by many coz of his adulterous ways.

At times our african problems do not need western solutions but we live in a global world, where we do things almost the same. Things have changed and priorities change, we need to move with the times and our President must know that he needs to up his moral values.

We are in the wrong culture of saying that whites should not criticise blacks coz its racist. Murray had drawings of apertheid leaders, he is an activist in his own right.

bobza on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:48 am

If only the president(mine by default) supporters would be as angry about the R4bn his government has wasted as they are about a penis that is not his…can’t wait 4 mangaung when karma finally catches up with him it would b criminal if it didn’t!

Mathaz on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:50 am

The painting has been sold to a German person, why fuss??

@mbulela i am with you, we need to review the way we elect leaders, i like the American model. Leaders have debates, their private lives scrutinised before they hold office. We on the other depend on the ANC constituency for a leader. The ANC is not the whole country. I have been observing Lindiwe Mazibuko and Musi Maimane, those two are going somewhere i tell you.

MyThoughts on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:54 am

“As Black people, we are taught from a young age, to respect our elders.” Who teaches us this respect? Isn’t it the very same elders? This is more beneficial to them than it is to us (youngsters)
We might have lost our African values like you say, but aren’t you aware that’s mainly because our leaders, our elders; people who instilled these African values have also lost them?
It is Zuma’s RIGHT annnnd his RESPONSIBILITY to keep his personal affairs private.

Mrs_Marv on Tue, 22nd May 2012 9:56 am

@Mathaz thank you!!! we tend to hide behind ‘racism’ “culture” instead of seeking the truth. Now ANC is spending our Tax money to fight his personal battles and got nothing to do with the good of the nation.Can we just for a moment reflect on the fact that the ‘African culture’ “Respect” you guys are shouting about few if none poleticians possess this days? maybe this should be seen as a potrait of the state of our society.

promisez on Tue, 22nd May 2012 10:04 am

We are all fed up of mr pres’s uncouth behaviour, someone had to give him a wake up call. our pres disrespects us.
Sleeping around at this time nd age, what is he teaching young boys? if he had kept his businesses privately, nobody in their right minds would have thought of exposing the pres’s gentiles!

Bushnana on Tue, 22nd May 2012 10:17 am

Reading these comments its not hard to see how we lost this land to colonisers and why Apartheid lasted for so long. Blacks cannot see through white people’s agendas. This painting had nothing to do with art, its pure racism. Like Glen Lewis said the oppressor is finding other ways to opress us, lets wake up!

What do you think would happen if we wrote the Dubula ibhunu song lyrics on a piece of paper and called it art? Would the Afriforum still consider it art??

The President does not need our permision or approval to practice polygamy they way he sees fit, I dont see these women complaining so why does it bother us so much??

kamzababy on Tue, 22nd May 2012 10:19 am

bathong!!! un guys dont get tired neh. goleng le bua ka pipi ya Zuma. haaai man

Vesa on Tue, 22nd May 2012 10:29 am

I’m with Mabler on the respect issue! No matter how an elderly person conducts themselves….they are to be afforded respect regardless.

On the flip side of things, the President’s love life/ marital life has never been a rosy one. His conduct has not been soo good, and has opened him to this kind of mockery. As much as I feel he needs to be respected, I also can’t help thinking that he brought this upon himself.

dejane on Tue, 22nd May 2012 10:34 am

@Bushnana if you read up on the artist Brett Murray you would realise that the man is not a racist. We tend to throw this “R” word around lately and use it when its not applicable. Brett Murray is an artist and an activist, he also has done some artworks that the apartheid govt would deem offensive to them.

Its not about race, its about the President’s leadership. Brett was just depicting the way he sees the President and expressing himself using a canvas and paint, just like we are using this blog as a medium.

Now the ANC is up in arms and protesting outside the court, dont they have a country to run?

mbulela on Tue, 22nd May 2012 10:44 am

Racism is losing its true meaning. Sounds like the kid making prank calls at the 10111 emergency number. One day there would be real danger and true emergency but it would be assumed to be one of his usual prank.
Those who shout racism at every turn actually end up belittling real racist acts.

manny on Tue, 22nd May 2012 10:53 am

mara this is not about racism ..its just a person who has no self worth and respect for others..its sowing in their work…RESPECT

dejane on Tue, 22nd May 2012 10:58 am

@Manny just like Zuma disrespected his culture when he had a child out of wedlock, just like how he disrespected his wives and children when he had extra marital affairs and slept with an HIV positive lady without using protection?

manny on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:15 am

@dejane -who are we to judge?

how many people do u know who have had kids out of wedlock ? cheated on their spouses? do u see them being rediculed in public? No
why must Zuma be an exception -that murray guy is way to young to be drawing ntho tse so …if ke art then ke art e vuil.

Mathaz on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:17 am

Breaking News: Paint has been poured on the painting, i understand @enews caught it live.

89Guy on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:20 am

Now we hear that paint has been thrown on the painting? This guy never ceases to amaze me. So the mind/logic stopped working and you resorted to the ‘African’ way of doing things, violence? Come on! We deserve better than this. The ANC has been turned into a drama fueled organisation. A shadow of its former glory.

Mathaz on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:30 am

The ANC has said that we should defend the president at all costs so two persons took it upon themselves to vandalise the painting. Vandalism is a criminal offence, why can’t we be diplomatic??

LadyMillion on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:32 am

Breaking News: Paint has been poured on the painting, i understand @enews caught it live.
—————>Kusiwe shame!

lolo on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:44 am

@Mbulela according to you… what is true racism? please give a personal subjective meaning!

Fact is, Tthis Brett wat wat guy really meant to offend, Not only was the idea to offend Zuma but it was to offend Zuma and benefitt financially from the offence.

There are other ways to represent patriachy…This was a low,cheap almost pornographic way to do this…But then again I have no doubt that the arist IS lo, cheap and pornographic…

Call me cynical but I KNOW that this was an act of racism, Fact is Zuma makes white people uncomfortable, he really does not pander to western notions of what it is to be a president. His leadership style is extremely afrocentric…The west hates that. Zuma did not marry anyone under duress, all of his wives know exactly what they were getting into.

And if you are going to be using a phallus to show patriachy, should’nt the phallus be erect?

Uthando on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:44 am

LMAO niyangihlekisa yazi

Mablerh the way I luv u bakithi…..thank God u on Ukhozi now I get to hear your voice

mbulela on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:51 am

Vandalism ————> typically ANC.
I am sure someone will say it is African to go violent to earn respect.

Wild Island on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:54 am

okkkkkkkkkkk…..
still waiting to hear the story behind the artis’s insiration regarding the pic,what was on his mind,how did he come up with the idea and after painting it what was the message he was tring to potray so far angikezwa lutho nje…behind every painting there’s a STORY…so whats HIS? thats what i wanna know mina..

Wild Island on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:55 am

*inspiration

Thandwayo on Tue, 22nd May 2012 11:57 am

the man is famous for his song ‘mshini wam” and in Africa mshini doesn’t refer to a gun only, he brought this to himself, i dont care about some ‘unkwown” artist that got fame in one week….

mbulela on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:03 pm

you call ineptitude and rampant inefficiency, Afrocentricity?
I don’t give a hoot who he marries or knocks up. It is a free world and he is entitled to that. I will even discuss the decency of his act afterwards, at present i am more interested and worried about how lousy a job he is doing as a president and hopelessly out of his depth he is and how cadre deployment is ruining the country.

Thandwayo on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:03 pm

actually it is not the ANC tht vandalasie the pic, it was the Youth of Cosatu, yes the same kids who ‘moered’DA last week, hahahah bt i had to laugh at this one, kwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Dnt mess with Cosatu…!

MyThoughts on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:03 pm

@Manny that’s a very stupid question you just asked @Dejane! Unless of course you’re a Zimbabwean citizen then you can ask that stupid question.

Monei on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:05 pm

aargh! @lady million, u beat me to it.

Just saw pics of the defacing and the defaced painting.

Monei on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:13 pm

oops, meant mathaz.

mbulela on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:13 pm

*Fact is Zuma makes white people uncomfortable*

Lots of blacks are even more uncomfortable at the epic mess that he and his govt are.

Monei on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:17 pm

have u peeps seen the other pieces of his exhibition??? i cnt find the link ryt now.

but brett seems to trivialise the struggle as well, but mainly the exhibition is generally anti-Anc vele.

manny on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:20 pm

@mythoughts support your statement on my stupid question….kindly

buwa nana buwa

Monei on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:22 pm

tjo! first i see the heading with the pic “hail to the Thief”

Monei on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:25 pm

so there i go googling to find y’all links of the other pics. found them. but on some other twisted site! it’s shit like this that keeps blacks angry. i’m sure whoever administers it is not even living in SA anymore. anyways, the other pics r there. (dnt think its all tho):

http://www.censorbugbear.org/africa/south-africa/sa-cabinet-saps-plunged-into-fear

BGT on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:26 pm

“That “artwork” of President Jacob Zuma with his penis hanging out was not just disrespectful but it violates our core set of values as South Africans.”

No, YOUR core set of values. While plenty may share them, I can assure you that not not all South Africans do.

Anyway why don’t you all show the same outrage for Zuma and his government’s utter incompetence, non governance and corruption? That’s the sort of shit you shouldn’t let slide. Fuck a painting.

Soccerbabe on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:39 pm

Ma Bloggers Dumelang…please help I need contact details for SPEAK OUT OR 3RD DEGREE!!!

Chase on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:40 pm

whether the artwork is destroyed or not & whether the court finds it inappropriate or not, the anc’s reaction has inflated the price of this artwork.

and brett would be laughing all his way to the bank, can any1 find this artwork’s price before and after all this reaction?

Fluffie on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:42 pm

The exhibition is/was called “Hail to the Thief”
Did anyone catch a glimpse of other pictures/paintings there?
One said “We want BMW’s, We want Bribes, We want Chivas” etc with fists up! And one with ANC flag/logo with a “SOLD” across it! SMH!

Ndesheni on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:59 pm

For me it is really simple. Had we as society not chosen an individual who sleeps with daughters of close friends as a mirror for our values and ambitions and president for our collective, would the painting have had room to exist? Would we be talking about this? Or would we, instead, be talking in equal disgust about the school kids in Limpopo who still do not have books half way into the school year? <<—profound… I thank u @ Ntombiziyabusa…

MyThoughts on Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:59 pm

lOl at “Buwa nana buwa”
Anyhow “Who are we to judge?” We are South African citizens who voted and put Zuma in power (the power he’s clearly abusing). When Dijane and millions of other South Africans marked an X next to Zuma’s face that’s when they were permitted to “judge” him, his personal and proffesional life.
And Manny as much as y’all would like to defend this kehla with words like “African values” “respect” “culture” “Afrocentric leadership” yada yada y’all are fighting a losing battle cause shem he’s proven to lead his personal/proffesional life opposite of all that. Y’all go on like you’ve never seen a dick before! Zuma’s got a dick. . . He’s a dick!
So Manny allow us to judge, and ohh I care less about a guy next door whose got kids all over cause he ain’t my leader!!

Makgotso on Tue, 22nd May 2012 1:09 pm

I don’t care if Zuma brought this to himself to me What happen to the word RESPECT?

If respect is earned hayi bantu some of us wouldn’t even respect our parents. Honour your parents and if the Bible says parents it doesn’t necessary mean your biological parents but anyone on the same age as your parents.

Anyway honouring/respecting somebody doesn’t necessary mean you condone his/her actions who are we to judge grand grand.

As for the Youth of Cosatu yona ke iyasihlaza ayilungiswa indaba ngeviolence.

zoesaldanah on Tue, 22nd May 2012 1:16 pm

to those that are going on about respect, im sure ya’ll heard of the saying “charity begins at home” so JZ should have treated himself with respect first and the rest of the nation would have respected him too….
and are there no better things to be discussed in this country other than this shi!t….???

next topic plz..enough abt this

Lela on Tue, 22nd May 2012 1:23 pm

Hi Vesa, hawu thought I was gonna see you kahle after church and say hi. Even the Sunday before I saw you driving out. Hope ugrand anyways. Say hi to your cute boy.

sk1 on Tue, 22nd May 2012 1:29 pm

Trust ppl to change the issue & make this bout govern/zuma’s corruption *smh* , the matter here is about human’s depiction be it sk, Zuma or any1 else…. fact is pres dignity is/ws belittled , howeva or whicheva u look at it ok’salayo the portrait is an insult to an elderly person whether that person hs mo than 1 wife , its his choice he has every rite 2choose indlela aphila ngayo , no 1 hs the rite to judge

manny on Tue, 22nd May 2012 1:39 pm

@mythoughts ,,,,so nna I gather u are one of tjose parents that allow their kids to call umama wase next sfebe-coz she has many patners -age and morals dont apply ko wena

shortT on Tue, 22nd May 2012 1:39 pm

on the other news, Zuma’s Spear has been defaced…. its been long overdue, somebody had to do it. Give those men a bells.

manny on Tue, 22nd May 2012 1:53 pm

art of nie art ..motho omoholo oa hlomphiwa finish and klaar

NOLO on Tue, 22nd May 2012 1:59 pm

@lolo ngicela ukuku emailer tu. wanna ask somethin

LadyMillion on Tue, 22nd May 2012 2:05 pm

Footage of Zuma ‘Spear’ vandals lands on YouTube [Video]
http://memeburn.com/2012/05/footage-of-zuma-spear-vandals-lands-on-youtube-video/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29

LadyMillion on Tue, 22nd May 2012 2:19 pm

So its a white guy and a black guy that went and defaced that painting.. bathunyiwe shame

MyThoughts on Tue, 22nd May 2012 2:24 pm

@ShortT don’t waste your Bells to fellas who probably defaced a replica of that “art work”. And if it’s indeed an original that’s defaced surely it was insured… Zuma and his supporters stay losing in this whole “saga” shem.
Manny I said I don’t give a piece of sheet about what uMama nextdoor does with her life, it’s her life! But uZuma ke yena, it’s a totally different story. Different story how? Go figure>>>>>>>>>>

Bushnana on Tue, 22nd May 2012 2:29 pm

It never dawned on me that so many of you are bothered by Zuma”s polygamous lifestyle, Like really I dont care!! President Zuma is my elder end of story and for that I will respect him, he doesnt need to do anything else to earn the respect.Mr Artist must start practising his freedom of expresion on issues such as white males still dominating the corporate sector, the inhumane treatment of farmworkers by farmers, the list goes on and on. Zuma must shag whoever he wants and marry 20 wives if that makes him happy.

SilentnoMore on Tue, 22nd May 2012 2:34 pm

I fail to comprehend the logic that some of you are using. Just because Zuma has ‘failed’ as a president; was implicated in the ‘rape’ trial; has many chidlren and wives…it is therefore justified to depict him (whether humurously or not) as this Brett guy has, why because of his failures he deserves any and all forms of public humuliation? Forgive me but I do not follow. Firstly, those who complain about polygamy: the South African Constituion and marriage related laws, recognise polygamy as a legal and binding marriage union and family union. Logic therefore dictates that a man/woman who is in a polygamous relationship has not committed a crime, rather the contrary the law recognises and respects that marriage and family union. Secondly, logic also dictates that because a man/woman has engaged in a legally recognised polygamous union the possibility of having children, more than in a nuclear family are much higher, therefore I fail to understand the shock horror when people hear that Zuma has 20+ kids. it is a possibility, if not a natural consequence of such a union, that is, many children. Depicting a man, an ordinary for that, with no social status in the way that Brett has depicted Zuma is an affront on a person’s dignity. this is so because we associate nakedness and specifically an exposure of genitals to be socially, and legally unacceptable. I believe if a person were to walk down the road naked there would surely, if caught, spend a night in jail for indecent exposure. the collorary is therefore also true, that if one is depicted in a way that society regards as unacceptable that one would feel “less” of a socially acceptable human being, humiliated and their dignity (worth as a human being) impaired, notwitstanding their past, present and future actions. it would do us as a nature a world of good, if folk, especially so called black educated folk, if they could hang on to one very important lessen in western education, that is TO CRITICALLY EVALUATE INFORMATION. can folk stop usiing the same hogwash, overused arguments they hear from the media and actually think! Like Mablerh has pointed in Africa culture respect is not earned as most of you are asserting. we acknowledge people’s humanity by virtue of being human, which in Zulu the greeting is SAWUBONA, which means I acknowledge your humanity. i dont earn a greeting, i deserve it by virtue of the fact that I breathe in oxygen and drink water, just like you! I have said enough… but can folk stop using arguments which have no relevance to the issue at hand to justify this failed attempt at art!

I thank you!

SilentnoMore on Tue, 22nd May 2012 2:35 pm

I fail to comprehend the logic that some of you are using. Just because Zuma has ‘failed’ as a president; was implicated in the ‘rape’ trial; has many chidlren and wives…it is therefore justified to depict him (whether humurously or not) as this Brett guy has, why because of his failures he deserves any and all forms of public humuliation? Forgive me but I do not follow. Firstly, those who complain about polygamy: the South African Constituion and marriage related laws, recognise polygamy as a legal and binding marriage union and family union. Logic therefore dictates that a man/woman who is in a polygamous relationship has not committed a crime, rather the contrary the law recognises and respects that marriage and family union. Secondly, logic also dictates that because a man/woman has engaged in a legally recognised polygamous union the possibility of having children, more than in a nuclear family are much higher, therefore I fail to understand the shock horror when people hear that Zuma has 20+ kids. it is a possibility, if not a natural consequence of such a union, that is, many children. Depicting a man, an ordinary for that, with no social status in the way that Brett has depicted Zuma is an affront on a person’s dignity. this is so because we associate nakedness and specifically an exposure of genitals to be socially, and legally unacceptable. I believe if a person were to walk down the road naked there would surely, if caught, spend a night in jail for indecent exposure. the collorary is therefore also true, that if one is depicted in a way that society regards as unacceptable that one would feel “less” of a socially acceptable human being, humiliated and their dignity (worth as a human being) impaired, notwitstanding their past, present and future actions. it would do us as a nature a world of good, if folk, especially so called black educated folk, if they could hang on to one very important lessen in western education, that is TO CRITICALLY EVALUATE INFORMATION. can folk stop usiing the same hogwash, overused arguments they hear from the media and actually think! Like Mablerh has pointed in African culture respect is not earned as most of you are asserting. we acknowledge people’s humanity by virtue of being human, which in Zulu the greeting is SAWUBONA, which means I acknowledge your humanity. i dont earn a greeting, i deserve it by virtue of the fact that I breathe in oxygen and drink water, just like you! I have said enough… but can folk stop using arguments which have no relevance to the issue at hand to justify this failed attempt at art!

I thank you!

LadyMillion on Tue, 22nd May 2012 2:35 pm

And in other News, Another guy has just been arrested for spray painting the wall of the Goodman Gallery

SilentnoMore on Tue, 22nd May 2012 2:36 pm

eish sorry for the duplication!

Mathaz on Tue, 22nd May 2012 2:37 pm

Zuma does not make whites uncomfortable,infact he is viewed as one who is easily influenced and manipulated.Mbeki on the other hand was very difficult to work with as he has strong views about the political and economic evolution of Africa.To say that whites and blacks are threatened by him is laughable.

MyThoughts on Tue, 22nd May 2012 2:38 pm

And I say these white males should continue to dominate the corporate sector. The inhumane treatment of farmworkers by farmers must still continue! OkayThanks

Monei on Tue, 22nd May 2012 3:20 pm

Nando’s has already released a print Advert! “new flame grilled corn spears with peri-peri sauce smeared on….fit for a president”

lolo on Tue, 22nd May 2012 3:20 pm

@Mathaz hay cha angeke shem! You are so so wrong on so many different levels about Zuma not being threatening! That is such a silly statement to make. Lemme elaborate as to why Zuma is threatening to just me, I’m black

1. This is the same man who has escaped “justice” for a corruption trial even though his corruptor Shabir Shaik was sentenced for the same trial.

2. This is the same man who was found not gulty in a rape trial he was accused of. Can I add that his accuser was so threatened and vilified that she had to seek EXILE in a foreign land.

3. This is the same dude who then having escaped “justice” TWICE, then went on to unseat his accusor the then president Mbeki in Polokwane.

4. This is the same man who then was elected to the highest office in the land by seeking populist support and using the Youth league president.

5. Fact is that Zuima is powerful beyond measure, don’t let the song and dance fool you!

Ask Mbeki! Zuma is a threat shem! He is boss the painting should have shown an ERECT penis! Zuma IS power!

Wild Island on Tue, 22nd May 2012 3:20 pm

still awaiting for my response….

lolo on Tue, 22nd May 2012 3:35 pm

@NOLO okay ask nana email and ask.

RexonaABC on Tue, 22nd May 2012 3:35 pm

Haai. People talking about respect, I get confused. When the sowetan cop and prison warder s pics and videos were being circulated, ene se bana ba batho bona?

Taking about African values, Polygammy is when a man takes a second wife, fisrt inform his current wife and members of the family about his desire, not to impregnate them first and then marry them and call it polygammy.

As for Gwede, he should just swallow chill pills or change the menaing of racism.

RexonaABC on Tue, 22nd May 2012 3:46 pm

*meaning*

Chase on Tue, 22nd May 2012 3:46 pm

this thing of “in africa respect is our culture” is the same thinking tht led us to being colonized by all other nations.

it is ths same respect tht have allowed english, afrikaners, indians, coloureds etc to be on top of us.

even in the workplace blacks r not getting any far bcos of the same respect.

guess wht whn an old man rapes an infant, we shud say & do nothing becos in africa we respect the elder and they dont need to earn respect.

NOLO on Tue, 22nd May 2012 4:01 pm

Ngicela iemail add sisi ngizosender! @Lolo

Pana on Tue, 22nd May 2012 4:05 pm

silentnomore i think you should go back to silent ville coz wa pota. the painting was disrespectful maar everything was based on the fact that brother man cannot keep it in if bekusiya ngaye ebezakuhamba eyiveze ngaphandle nje.
AND it’s not even about race. ntate mantashe o tauwe as usual

Mrs_Marv on Tue, 22nd May 2012 4:08 pm

To those that say “unknow artist Brett Murray is a known artist
How selective is you ‘respect your elders” culture.

promisez on Tue, 22nd May 2012 4:09 pm

puts a “like” on Chase’s comment !

amaZin on Tue, 22nd May 2012 4:15 pm

Well written MaBlerh,i totally agree with this theory of our people becoming to westernised in the sense anything done by the white community is right and in turn disregard our very own values and teachings.Its really infuriating when people will debate about issues of their culture from a white persons point of view.You will never hear an Indian say “I wont wear the red string on my hand because times have changed” but abantu bakithi…awu its their excuse for everything,done in order to prove how ‘white and modernised’ they are.i admit i myself use this line but ukuthi im going to forget ukuthi ngiphuma ekhaya elinjani just to impress the new ‘white-black generation’ai lutho

Mapakisha on Tue, 22nd May 2012 4:33 pm

I see what happens in that Youtube clip as racist, two males destroy the painting but look at how the black guy is handled. The white guy is simply cuffed & spoken to with much less aggression, this whole thing is annoying. I wish the president would get over himself already.

Biskiti on Tue, 22nd May 2012 4:41 pm

aMazin, kanako eo okentse makgowa on your Profile picture.. tripple yawn!

With all due respect, Pres Zuma has made his bed, and now must lie in it, 4 wives and all! I hope the real painting is on it’s way to Germany as we speak.

Brett is the man, he deserves a bottle of Bells!

oomuhle on Tue, 22nd May 2012 7:36 pm

The whole world is in rage because of one mans penis lootata has made his bed now he must lie in it

lwandie on Wed, 23rd May 2012 8:10 am

Hehee that Header by the gallery security on the black guy is his way of saying :
“I swear I dont know him bass,i didnt organise for him to come and cover the pen*s with black paint ,he is not my relative…dont let me lose my job bass please neh …do you want me to hit him harder because I can you know…”

Dont mind me folks just my silly musings while waiting for the train,I neither condone the artist nor the defacers.

zoesaldanah on Wed, 23rd May 2012 8:37 am

@Mapakisha: but the problem is its a black holding a black man down, why, why do we do this to each other, and is it still racist if its black agints black??????
its a shame how black fellows treat each other, really….

Miranda on Wed, 23rd May 2012 9:06 am

News24 :Most read,commented,viewed article >>>Penis story

Just curious :Most commented recent article>>>Penis story article #dies#

You guys are not serious yazi, What do you expect me to do between 08H30-09H30 when all people are in the meeting.

Clearly ,I chose the wrong day to bunk the morning meeting.

makasoso on Wed, 23rd May 2012 9:06 am

have u guys seen the pic of helen zille naked?

http://localislekker.tv/2012/05/22/the-gallery-displays-helen-zille-nude/comment-page-2/#comments

@JohneighGALAXY™ on Wed, 23rd May 2012 9:52 am

Can this thing concerning Zuma’s dick just fucken die down now??? This is now boring beyond measure!!! It’s like chewing on a piece of meat that has lost its salty flavour (excuse the pun), fucken friggin mundane shit this has become. This Teekay (I think its KamzaBaby’s friend) has time on his or her hands to waste his or her artistic energy on such. #MajorYawn #NewArticlesPlease

BlindFold on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:01 am

So i watched All you need is love yesterday for the first time, my goodness the show is such a bore its not funny, where is Vanessa and Hlomla???

lolo on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:11 am

Did you all see izikhothane izolo on 3rd degree!!! OMW… I really love them… I wanna be a 16 year old boy so I can be one… they are so so cool… With their candy-coloured shiny shoes and gold teeth…

But izikhothane are a bit sexually duplicitous mara… or is it just my imagination, all these brightly coloured clothes with shiny shoes and dancing that is marked by the wiggling of bums… Izikhothane men arent the manliest of males neh…

Vesa on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:17 am

Did y’all see the enews maobane? They showed the arrest of the guys who defaced the painting. The black security guard went for the young boy, head butted and slam dunkked him before handcuffing him. The white male was walked out while being interviewed! Tjo…..we still have a long way to go hey

kimmo on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:18 am

thank you @ JG, whooooo enough with the penis story!
@lolo ive seen those skhotane kids, i think it was on cutting edge, i think they have no sense of style, nje those kids, shiny shoes and carvellas hell no

Vesa on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:18 am

Lmao @lolo

Smang-mang Warona on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:20 am

Its a sad day in a country’s history when their president allows his personal battles to dominate the issues being discussed. Its so embarrassing.

We’re going to look back at Zuma’s presidential term with sadness and a little shame. He on the other hand doesn’t even realise what his mistakes (particulary the mishandling of this penis saga) is going to do to his legacy. He thinks he’s being attacked now? Wait until after his term ends and everyone is like WTF.

Anyway.. lets make this Anything goes lol

lolo on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:33 am

@Vesa and Kimmo I really honest to God think izikhothanes are super cool… I like their dubious fashio sense.

Mna i grew up in the early nitetees, so I reall have no right to judge anyones fashion sense… In the ninetees phela we wore

1.Pepe jeans (in a curry mustard colour) those jeans were like the ultimate , final word on COOL, They were baggy and pallazzo-pants-like, you had to wear them with a belt that looped around your wast twice, so we all ended up looking like curry coloured bags of money… Kwaaaaaa my sister has a photo were she is rocking pepe jeans I had the pic blown up and put in a frame, gave it to her for her birthday… in front of her hubby… kwaaaaa tltltltl, She died shem… she was so embarrassed!

LadyMillion on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:36 am

why Ultramel though???

Smatsatsa on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:37 am

Like really, are there such things happening outside?? I couldn’t believe what I saw on 3rd Degree last nite, those kids are stupid it’s not even funny, it’s such a sad thing to witness really..

As much as I had my moments of laughter while watching, I couldn’t help but think that there is no future there..
Since when is Ultramel custard regarded as status symbol bathong? And that clothing label that sells these flower shirts has been around for centuries, why the fuss now, it was never big..

LOL at the one kid tearing up a R20 note.. Try tearing a stack of hundreds next time so we know it’s real..

@JohneighGALAXY™ on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:39 am

@Lolo: Vulgar colourful attire is the new sexy with these kids. Did you see the way young girls were going goo-goo-gaa-gaa over Izikothane??? I also think Izikothane have very little taste whatsoever. For these dusty, township brats who can’t pronounce basic kindergarten terms, vulgar materialism gives them a sense of importance and purpose. For me they represent a lost, sexually charged, and goalless generation of millennial babies who live from social grant to social grant each month. They leave me sad shem!

LadyMillion on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:39 am

Then the other ones asks omunnye..usmile(a) ngamalini? and tells him ukuthi unesmile esi cheap…then goes on to show off all his GOLD TEETH.

Monei on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:41 am

BS, CAN WE PLEASE HAVE NEW ARTICLES.

I DON’T WANA TACITLY SUPPORT THIS NEVER ENDING PENIS STORY BY COMMENTING HERE.

Monei on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:42 am

*ASKIES,GA KE SHOUTE. imagine its all in bold. just highlighting my request nje.

LadyMillion on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:43 am

Check out @skhothanegirl on twitter..the engrriiiiisssh there. but i think uyenza ngamasbom, i dont know.
Died when she said she is gonna wear a carvella to school so they can tell her to go home then yena she will go buy ingundu azipholele

LadyMillion on Wed, 23rd May 2012 10:54 am

oh well i am black after all……….so iUltramel custard ndizothi yiUltramel. looooolzzzzzzzzzz

kimmo on Wed, 23rd May 2012 11:05 am

hai @ lolo no thank you shem!
damn why did i miss the show, LOL @ gold teeth

Monei on Wed, 23rd May 2012 11:22 am

just went to check out Pirates. they r at work today. mara buccaneer abomnyamane.lol. esp the captain. u cnt see his facial features on my phone. and all my benni pics were blurry. oh well! if my devoted bucs fan of a friend was here she wudv enjoyed it. i dnt even know most of the team.

kamzababy on Wed, 23rd May 2012 11:28 am

This Teekay (I think its KamzaBaby’s friend) has time on his or her hands to waste his or her artistic energy on such. #MajorYawn #NewArticlesPlease

LOL Joneigh. i dont that Teekay person tltltltlttl

kamzababy on Wed, 23rd May 2012 11:35 am

i dont know….

Biskiti on Wed, 23rd May 2012 11:39 am

Kimmo, nami i passed out on the couch while waiting for LNN, and only woke up when the credits tsa 3rd Degree were going up.

ahhh, i’m bored and feeling somewhat down

Monei on Wed, 23rd May 2012 11:56 am

Askies Biskiti. Cheer up!

I serving my last 2 weeks at work and have already bn excluded from meetings and stuff. i dnt know why i still come in. i’m so bored here. on monday i was looking up kitchen designs. yday it was puppies. today i decided i will go through electronic pamphlets. (i just qualified to buy/build off-plan- hence the theme ya ‘shopping for the future’).

Chase on Wed, 23rd May 2012 12:03 pm

@Monei, i was standing nxt 2 u whn u were busy taking pics of benni and company n i took a pic of u as well.

why wud a guy queue just to take a pic with lekgwathi and mayambela.

Monei on Wed, 23rd May 2012 12:06 pm

wow! this pipi story is growing longer and longer.

but i’m happy to hear this tidbit:apparently the young man who was violently arrested yday despite not resisting arrest has lodged an assault case against the security guard. apparently the cops r on the way to arrest him. as per metrofm news.

Monei on Wed, 23rd May 2012 12:08 pm

hahaha@chase. ther is no way u know me. this employer is huge!
OMG!! if u work here vele, now i’m wondering which chef/staff member this is o batlang ndunu ya gago. kwaaaaaaaaa!!!!

sweetie on Wed, 23rd May 2012 12:38 pm

bathong dumelang!

im feel tired vandag i just wana sleep

Miranda on Wed, 23rd May 2012 12:46 pm

Afternoom bloggers!!!

Kena le bothatha.

Sooooo I have a this cousin in grade 12 who wants to study Art and Media. I asked her why? She said she likes writing ….OK!cool. She asked me to help her with applications and stuff.

I am in a completely different field.And I don’t even know a single person in Art and Media.I am assuming that jobs under the field are journalism,drama, what else is there?Now, the problem is fees.Her parents aren’t working and we might have a problem in case NSFAS doesn’t come to the party early. Which companies offer bursaries in this field?

She is not an A-student,futhi she is doing Maths literacy at school….so even if I tried marketing Engineering(easy to get a bursary there) to her, she would never get in. She doesn’t want to study anything else. Now if she could do Social work, Education, Nursing et al of the state’s service delivery courses, she would go to school for free, Mahala like that. But ke, aka funi any of those lomtwana,ufuna art and media yakhe I tried convincing her, ke a pallwa!!! What am I supposed to do mara. I just don’t want this to get to a point where she is admitted and there is no money….and I start receiving that “why don’t you help pay the fees for first quarter or something ” look/impression…So yah, those who are in the know about Art/Media, Thusang!!!!!

@JohneighGALAXY™ on Wed, 23rd May 2012 12:49 pm

@Monei: If you know a black guy with dreadlocks tied in a ponytail fashion, that’s @Chase. I don’t know if he still has a ponytail today though.

Monei on Wed, 23rd May 2012 12:55 pm

hahaha@Johneigh. noted.

@miranda, wuuu shem ur cousin o bothateng. the only hope of such bursaries i know of is ones in the university booklets. those ones that tend to be for jewish students, and other discrminatory stuff,aka what what foundation awards or “in honour of ” mang-mang bursary. the arts and media are well funded if at all. Ask the universities for the bursary and scholarship info booklets or list.

manny on Wed, 23rd May 2012 1:46 pm

since im bored …I had to log on to discuss lephondo la chace..@monei u should know chase maan he has a short nyana ponytail ya di dreads tse i 4

Gomolemo on Wed, 23rd May 2012 2:23 pm

..@monei u should know chase maan he has a short nyana ponytail ya di dreads tse i 4…kwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa@ manny. ijoooo you just killed me!!

kimmo on Wed, 23rd May 2012 3:46 pm

eish since its dead here today, counting hours to mam angie!

Vesa on Wed, 23rd May 2012 3:51 pm

@Monei….you and I work for the same co moes?

fabulicious on Wed, 23rd May 2012 4:20 pm

@monei veza and chase di employees tsa ko Absa

@kimmo am also looking forward to Relate, e ska bora waitse

kimmo on Wed, 23rd May 2012 4:26 pm

or there will be soccer yhoooo!

Chase on Wed, 23rd May 2012 4:27 pm

@fabulicious, wrong i work for da cleaning&security company contracted to absa.

why u exposa abanye abantwana maara?

Deemag on Wed, 23rd May 2012 5:53 pm

@ fabulicious I’ve always suspected that I know you and today my suspicions have grown stronger; either that or we have mutual friends from Absa…. If Chase has iphondo could he be? Errrrm no ur too blunt to be him; and Vesa could you be working at the Absa in Sandton? Capital to be exact? Hehehe kunzima! Monei nawee I suspect u work at absacapital

Deemag on Wed, 23rd May 2012 6:02 pm

Hehe Mara Chase u can’t work for the security and the cleaning co at once two diff co.

@JohneighGALAXY™ on Wed, 23rd May 2012 6:10 pm

@DeeMag: You are getting hotter and hotter. @Chase is the total opposite of His online persona, quite laid back and chilled kinda brother. You’d be surprised.

Babyluv on Wed, 23rd May 2012 8:03 pm

Kwaaaaaaa #deathby iphondo lika chase eline dreads eziyi 4.

coolcaz on Wed, 23rd May 2012 9:08 pm

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Jandl Reevo Reeves?2012/05/23 07:36:01 PM

I am a racist A South African artist called Brett Murray has been causing a huge stir since his painting of South Africa’s president titled The Spear was put up in a local gallery. The ANC have worked themselves up into a total frothy about the painting and their biggest issue with it – It’s racist. ??????? Disrespectful, maybe. Rude, maybe. But racist??? That little word that has become the political whip with which the ANC work the masses up into angry mobs and riots anytime something happens that they don’t like. And it’s becoming really really tiring. In South Africa, the word racist has lost it’s original meaning and now only get’s used to describe a white person doing something a black person doesn’t like. You never hear it used in any other context. You can’t say to a black CEO that he is racist because he won’t hire white people, no – he’s just making sure that only blacks get hired because of BEE. You can’t call a university racist because they won’t accept an application from a white student with straight A’s for 8 subjects – instead taking on a black student who barely passed matric. Nope, they’re not racist, they’re just correcting the wrongs of the past. But god forbid you do hire the white person or you do admit the white student, you’ll be branded racist by the government quicker that you can say “colour shouldn’t be the issue here” because how dare you choose a white person over a black person in a democratic South Africa. Most of the time when you are a white person and you call your fellow countrymen to be held accountable for their unacceptable words and actions such as corruption, nepotism, fraud, theft, you’ll be branded a racist. Today, I shouted at a taxi driver who pushed in-front of me nearly driving me into the curb with no regard for the fact that I have a child in the car – I must be a racist, because only racists care about road safety it would seem. I complained to the manager of my bank because the woman handling my account is so incompetent and hasn’t responded to one email or message I’ve left her for over 2 months! Nevermind that my account is about to be shut down because of FICA. I must be a racist then because only racists expect service from a bank and stupidly think an organisation is going to actually do the job they promise to do in all their marketing material. The other day my husband confronted a woman outside a shopping centre after she carelessly threw her fast food packet on the floor less than 10cm from a dustbin. Her response – “you’re just a racist”. Yes, you’re absolutely right, because only racists care about keeping their city clean and litter free. I fired a lady who worked for me once because I caught her rummaging through one of my cupboards and she had taken my passport and other belongings which I found in her bag. Her only response – “you’re a racist”. Yes, yes I am. Because only racists think that stealing is a criminal offense and is done by people with no morals or conscience. I swear being a white person in this country can be very bloody exasperating at times. The ANC has brainwashed the masses with this little word – racist – to the point that it’s actually completely lost its meaning and now get’s used totally out of context. Most days I just let it pass and I don’t go into effect of it. But today is not one of those days. Today I’m angry and today I’m sick and tired of it. I’m not shouting at you because you’re black, I’m shouting because you’re a maniac on the roads who is a danger to society. I’m not complaining to your manager because you’re black. I’m complaining because you’re an incompetent moron who is incapable of doing her job properly. I’m not firing you because you’re black. I’m firing you because you’re a thief. I’m not confronting you because your black, I’m shouting at you because you’re a messy pig who expects other people to clean up your mess. Please get over yourselves and move out the way of the remarkably amazing black people who DO take total responsibility and who actually want this country to work for ALL the people who live in it. If being a racist in this country means that I will stand up for my rights, fight for what is fair and true and hold everyone around me accountable for their words and actions, then I am a racist through and through. If being a racist means that I believe in freedom of speech and expression and that everyone’s point of view is relevant, no matter what colour, age or sex, then I will proudly announce to all who can hear that I am a racist. If being a racist means that I believe we should all be treated with the same rules and consequences and that no-one, especially not the President, is above the law and exempt from criminal prosecution when that law has been broken, then print me a t-shirt saying “I am a racist” and I will wear it in the streets. If being a racist means that I will not stand idly by while the few, corrupt pigs in the ANC rape this country for everything they can get with no regard for the poor and the homeless and the uneducated, then I’ll get I’m a racist tattooed on my back. Mr Zuma and the ANC – you need to get a different vocabulary. Instead of shouting at someone like Brett Murray about a painting being offensive, maybe you should be asking yourselves why he painted it in the first place. Instead of wanting to take Zapiro to court every time he depicts the president & his shower head in one of his cartoons, why don’t you stop to realise that there is truth in everything he draws and that your angry responses are really due to the fact that he keeps hitting a nerve that’s a little too close to home. Maybe, Mr Zuma, it’s time to take a long, hard look in the mirror. If you were honest with yourself you’d see that people actually have very little respect for you because some believe you have lied and cheated your way through your Presidency. According to reports you have been involved with more seedy, corrupt criminals than Horatio Cane and that you have abused funds for personal gain. Even the great Oliver Tambo’s daughter doesn’t think much of you based on what she had to say about the painiting: “He should inspire the reverence he craves. This portrait is what he inspired” You Mr Zuma and your ANC are a bunch of CANTS! CAN’T let go of the past CAN’T stop operating from a place of revenge and hate for what’s happened in the past CAN’T stop the out of control corruption that is rife throughout every government department CAN’T seem to get the education right in this country CAN’T say goodbye of Affirmative Action and BEE which is ruining businesses across this land But what do I know? I’m just a white girl talking about a black man. I must be a racist

MyThoughts on Wed, 23rd May 2012 11:47 pm

Babyluv on Thu, 24th May 2012 7:34 am

Thatha white girly thatha. Vumani bo, SIYAVUMA

Monei on Thu, 24th May 2012 9:33 am

eish, i missed the outing of Absa colleagues.

why r u ppl coming out of the woodwroks when i’m leaving here in 2 wks?! mxim.

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